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Old November 1st, 2006, 10:23 AM
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C/p: as everyone knows the status on the market, just got noticed viewsat beeing bashed because of last respond regards autoroll! it took my attantion to give some real information for public to be clear anough to understand advertisment works for end user but doesnt work for coders or who ever know better this market. I have been in this fta cardless market almost from begining! first year i have been having problems with fortecstar. There was 1 blacklist and full al7bar group! they have been bashing me baad and on my first showup they didnt welcome, not because of me just because of compitation issue because they had fortecstar to sell and advertise and pansat only had blacklist! but i did win! and then i became helpfull person to coolsat after 2 years as soonest they grow up because of my help and because of my respect they start workin against me but again! i dont wanna say i damaged them but they damaged them selfs i didnt need to because there was a wrong person rollin coolsat advertising! too many times rippoff people out there too many times treathin people to killin bla bla to win the market but as of today coolsat lose what he had and still pansat next to everyone. And this year i did trust viewsat finaly to help him out how ever i can. Viewsat startup his connection with me perfectly and truely, i realy respected mr viewsat and even chill out with him sometimes. But never thought he would surprize me because of money!. Sence sha1 algorithm everythin was cool and he was my best friend and too many times happened he talked $hit about pansat actin his not doin anythin, all those "bankroupt because of europe defective units" all those storys created by him to damage pansat slowly, but never admit ever! and then when dn activate first sha1 i was promised by viewsat we will share sollutions and made me to be safe when i was goin to europe! but right after dn got hit he refused to help us out claimin his gruop will not give it out the sollution, i had just 1 option to cancel my trip and come back, because of my respect i did got helped from europe while i was in a airplane coming back to us. And i did fix the issue because of my perfect connection in europe. After sha1 they add 4d 4e and 57 mapcalls which was the hardest one ever we had in our history! at that time we took a deal with viewsat to work together because we need to get big gruop to solve the problem but we have been exchanging files but always i gave out my files to viewsat to match with theirs! but i never thought viewsat lookin some other place and mean time changin my vision to wrong side. They were talkin about in and out mapcall issue but mean time they were dealin with maprom without letting me know. And will tell you exactly why pansat did not release file in same or even earlier or later after viewsat. Viewsat hired somoene to read the card by scope after all they got the picture by binary and never had luck to figure out how to convert to hex. And they contacted back to her/him askin for help for binary convert, and they got help from relable coders gruop without them knowin their work will be leacked to viewsat. And mean time they were givin me opinions and some bullshit codings claimin we are close bla bla bla. After they finished released 57 mapcall fix and mr viewsat diseapered for couple days, finaly got chance to talk to him, this is what he told me ay ay ay bl my coders will not release the file and told me he will give me after 1 week, then after 1 week he gave me deal to take if i will stop supportin pansat Pansat 2500 and 2300as but i told him no! not possible you dont have to give me i will finish by my self with my group without your help but will not stop supportin pansat pansat Pansat 2500 and 2300s. He admit even none of his group are happy that i am talkin to you. And then i stop talkin to him and work hard to workout the sollution! there are more i can talk and more can prove what he have done to me after my help to viewsat. I will make example about this autoroll issue. Thedssguy was on my messanger few days ago claimin viewsat rollin keys even from oct7th fta fta bin. I was so pissed because was not possible and i was pissed that he was givin out wrong information to end user clamin its an end user error, viewsat fta fta bin rollin no need new fix! he had coder on conference on msn claimin that they have b1 commend executin perfectly on viewsat, but unfortanatly in a stream there was no b1s anymore. 1. I proved thedssguy who ever his talkin to his not a coder his just a messanger by prove him there is no b1s anymore in a stream. 2. I proved him his liein people to advertise viewsat! the reason i am posting this announcment because of this post from other site!!!!!!!! viewsats inc and their false claims -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- this post is intended to clear some false claims viewsat has been giving to the public about their ability to have the best support. I would like to start by addressing the false claims they have about the their coders being able to produce the best files and support money can buy; well i’m one of those people that sees through the lies, and how without them being able to pay for a fix would not have been able to provide a solution in the first place. Now as you all know a true support is shown through time and not in a short run. There is a good saying, what goes up fast will also need to come down as fast. This is my prediction of where viewsat is going to be within the next few months. The reason why i have come to this understanding is, mainly because other companies like pansat already have the mapcall, viewsat claims they have. So the playing filed is level again. Now the other reason why i believe viewsat will not last long is because i have see repeated attempt from the coders of viewsat to fix the autoroll issue. “we are not blind mr viewsat, we see that your autoroll doesn’t work properly” why do we have to turn our units off from the back and leave them on for 30 min so they can autoroll? if you are the number one company in the game, then tell us why your codes can’t find a permanent solution to the autoroll fix. I have see companies like captiveworks and skyview have better autoroll fix than viewsat. My guess is that you were not able to buy this fix; if the coders of viewsat are so grate they why don’t they come up with a autoroll fix that lasts. The point has been proven and the facts are clear, how can a company be so grate, that they can’t even have a solution for a simple autoroll fix. Maybe you should have paid for autoroll as well? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- to prove that post is 100% right, viewsat didnt find any good emm coding writer yet to claim they have the best support! so lets see what they will find. By the way i dont mean to bash but like to say the thruth. Viewsat has recall on all viewsat lights manufactor defect!
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Old November 1st, 2006, 12:36 PM
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I look at this post as just a pissed off BlackList because i have had no major problems with my VS extreme since the big map57 shutdown.
This autoroll problem effected other boxes also so it cannot be just said that it is a VS thing.
I am sure that BL has a bone to pick with MR VS in many ways but the whole picture does shows that MR VS eaither paid up for the map57 fix or his coders just plain beat BL coders to the fix and BL is pissed becaused of lost revenue due to slow pansat sales.
Anyone that keeps up with FTA news knows that MR VS & BL did share information for a long time but at some time as do most friendships it comes time that one or the other feels he is carrying all the weight and i feel that this is the reason these 2 x friends parted their ways or at least 1 x friend parted his way.
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Old November 1st, 2006, 01:09 PM
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Your probably right about the situation. I have 2 3500sd Pansats and a Pansat 2500. I also bought a Viewsat Extreme when the map 57 screwed everybody up.

The Extreme has been running flawless for 2 months now...I forgot which fta bin is in it, it has been so long.I have done nothing to it...no Opkeys no scanning no nothing and the darn thing just keeps on ticking.

I dont use the Pansat 2500 anymore just the 3500.In the last 2 weeks alone I have put 3 new bins on scanned twice and adjusted the clock several times and still get Bad or Scrambled chanells.

Dont get me wrong as I think Pansats are a good STB but the facts speak for themselves.

Blacklist is upset and he better start miricle working if he wants to stay in the game......
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 12:42 PM
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This should tell all why BL is so upset with MR VS.
Dish has been sending bad/false keys to loop plastic & it has caused pansat receivers to have key issues & to prove my point I am running 2 viewsat's & a SonicView1000 & i have had no problems with keys & i have done some reading & i find this is the same with other Viewsat's & SV's.
BL has problems big time & he is not happy with MR VS & this is why the Rant & Raveing of BL.
( P.S. SonicView is supported by MR VS )
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 03:04 PM
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my 2700 has been runnin great since the new fix has come out the only down part so far is leaving autoroll off and entering the keys manually (when they really change)
and yes it looks like bl is a little pissed to say the least.

but i look at it this way ........heck im still gettin tv with a box they said was dead and no good a little over 3 weeks ago.
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